4 X 4 Chevy Van

[jeffro]

This build has been in the back of my mind since late last year sometime. I know, Vans aren't real good rock crawlers, but they still make 4 x 4 vans in the 1:1 world. I just saw one the other day, and it looked kinda wicked.

This will be the first time I have built the body before I have even started on a chassis with axles. I don't even have any axles "yet". TLT's of course..

The body is still pretty rough, but its a good start I think. (check out the difference between it and the a lunch box body)

My 1st mock up, a month or so ago. ( This is all of the old clod body pieces leftover from all of my other Bowtie builds)

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I started last nite, had a wild hair going on.

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And this is as of this afternoon.

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Like, I said, its still really rough, but I have the hard part done.. It just kinda hit me last nite, after I got to looking through all the left overs from my chevy builds, how easy it would be to do a van now.

Let me know your thoughts or comments. Thanks for checking it out.:cool:

[teebeehex]

Well done Jeff! I think you know my thoughts on this one. Good to see progress on this build and some size / scale comparison to the LB. I trust you're not going to paint it A-Team colours :D

[tinker]

For some very good reference material,
http://www.quigley4x4.com/Home/tabid/37/Default.aspx
Lots of sweet looking 4X4 vans.

[OldSchoolRC]

Wow! Off to a great start!

A "wild hair going on?"

[skinny_TC]

That's great! Can't wait to see it finished! Are you going to paint it like a Lunch Box?

[Flowmastered87gl]

Wow its coming along nice.

Familiar with the song Chevy Van by Sammy Johns??

[Wyoming]

cool project Jeffro, I always like these 4x4 custom vans when i see them. They always seem to have like 20 mountain bikes on roof around here.

[Northwest 4x4]

I was looking to do that great that your doing it cool biuld

[Blazerbogger]

I can't believe you're doing this before me! JK This thing is going to be so cool! It's one of those clodable vehicles that I've never gotten around to. When I do mine, It's going to have true scale IFS I-beam suspension, automatic 3-speed tranny, and it'll be burgundy.

[RCohio]

nice build was going to do a lunch box with mrc axles & 1.55 will be watching this build :)

[Arcocustom]

The first Chevy vans came out in 1964 and were based off the Chevrolet Corvair. That's right, the "unsafe-at-any-speed" Corvair. Of course, this produced a very weird looking van. Here is a photo of a 1966 Chevy van...


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The first Chevy 4x4 van came about in 1971.

The short wheelbase vans are less common, making pictures hard to find but I did find some and a little info to go along with it. Here is a photo of a 1982 Chevy Beauville 1-ton 4X4 van. Notice how the factory windows are all above the body-line. ;)


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1979-1991 Chevrolet and GMC 1-ton vans came from the factory with a GM "corporate" 14 bolt rear end and a Dana/Spicer Model 60 front axle with a passenger side differential drop, standard rotation gears, kingpin knuckles, and 35 Spline axle shafts. The "DANA 60" is easily identified by its straight axle tubes, 10 bolt asymmetrical cover, and a "60" cast in to the housing.


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Here is a 1/2 ton van conversion that uses a "Dana 44" front end and leaf springs out of a Blazer.


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Here is a late 80's early 90's 1-ton Chevy 4X4 van.

Factory windows....
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1-ton Chevy 4X4 vans with lots of lift and big tires.


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The above picture is a good view of the passenger-side sliding door.


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You can see in the above picture how the windows on the rear panel are not factory.

[RCohio]

My dad had a 1969 chevy van it was blue. he got it to haul all his model air plane stuff to the flying field i was about 4 or 5 yrs old and thought that was the coolest van ever

[jeffro]

I was gonna try and quote all of you guys, but Im lazy and its my Monday, so Im kinda "yucky" at the moment.


No "A" Team colors teebeehex. :) I thought I better put the lunchbox body in there for a size comparison. Glad you are liking it


Tinker, thanks for the link, I need all the help I can get.


Yup, a "wild hair" it was Easter :D You are the only one that said anything OSRC :) It just came to me after digging through my left over body parts, and I had to build it while I was thinking about it. (I need to finish my Jeep)


And to Skinny_TC, Thank You. I'm probably gonna to do a 2 tone unless I find a solid color I like better.


Thanks Mike, Yes I remember that "dang" song, I got so sick of it when that came out in the mid 70's, :D I was 14 or 15 and liked Black Sabbath music (still do) :)


Thanks Wyoming,, yeah, most of the Vans around here pretty bad looking.


Thank you Northwest. I haven't seen you around too much lately, are you doing OK ?


And to rcohio, Thank you, We better see a build thread on your Lunchbox


And now Arco (Jay) I knew you would find me a bunch of info on vans , I have onlry run across one of those pics you found. I love that last pic, with the mud singer looking tires

Im not sure about an interior, Im kinda burnt out on making interior's,, not sure about doors and other back windows, I will have to see how involved I want to get and what you guys can talk me into doing to this thing.

It was kinda of a building brainstorm just to get the basic body built, but I need to change the front end, its wrong but close.

(Plus I had no clue about the 1st van being based off the Corvair.. interesting)


Thanks everybody, for your input. :)

[jeffro]

I can't believe you're doing this before me! JK This thing is going to be so cool! It's one of those clodable vehicles that I've never gotten around to. When I do mine, It's going to have true scale IFS I-beam suspension, automatic 3-speed tranny, and it'll be burgundy.

Sorry Erik, somehow I missed your comments.. I remember you and I were thinking about this back in November. Go for it, my problem at this moment, I feel brain dead. Where I work, it just drains the life force right out of you sometimes, :frusty:

Anyway, it sounds like you have a better plan then me, all I know is its gonna have solid axles on both ends. I can't decide on a tranny yet, or color, or chassis etc.... :confused:

[IceChilly]

This is definitely an interesting idea and I will be following the progress of this build :thumb:

[That guy]

Awsome idea, Jeffro just take a breather and a day or two off [ not anything longer than that,cause I wanna watch this build...LOL] and it will come too you. You do some of the best work I have seen on here, and you builds are great too follow. This will be one of the coolest!:yourock: But, dont forget to have fun with it!

[jeffro]

This is definitely an interesting idea and I will be following the progress of this build :thumb:

Thank you, In all my surfing to the ends of the WWW, I have yet to see a larger scale van, so I thought it would be a good challenge. And its proving to be just that, but I'm enjoying it. I really have to study the pics because there is a lot of differences between vans and trucks, I now see....


Awsome idea, Jeffro just take a breather and a day or two off [ not anything longer than that,cause I wanna watch this build...LOL] and it will come too you. You do some of the best work I have seen on here, and you builds are great too follow. This will be one of the coolest! But, dont forget to have fun with it!

Thank you very much. My head just swelled up and can't get out of the door into the hallway. :D Anyway, I did just that, I didn't touch it for 2 days, but I finally worked on the front end last nite.

Disclaimer :: Its really rough looking, And I still have some building up to do. I've been rounding the outer edges of the grill and trying to get the hood and vents more copasetic...long long wat to go, I just wanted to show a little progress.

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And this is the stuff I have been using as body putty, so far it hasn't shrunk or cracked any even after painting, (walmart, of course)

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[Waterboy]

Its looking like a van alright!! With your styrene skillz this will be an awesome build:) GO JEFF GO!!

[jeffro]

Its looking like a van alright!! With your styrene skillz this will be an awesome build:) GO JEFF GO!!

Thanks Andrew, ;) See what you or anybody think now. Is it, mostly the nose area, looking more like a chevy van from the mid 80's ?????

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Let me know.. Thank you

[Northwest 4x4]

so where did you get the material for the sides, i dont know what to use on my build to make my rigs bed

[Waterboy]

Oh yes very cool. Are you making windows on the sides? if not, i think i have an idea you may like:)

[Wyoming]

looking great Jeffro

[jeffro]

so where did you get the material for the sides, i dont know what to use on my build to make my rigs bed

Hi northwest, I buy all my styrene sheets at my Local hobby Shop. They carry different thickness's and size's.


Oh yes very cool. Are you making windows on the sides? if not, i think i have an idea you may like

Thank You Andrew, thats the million dollar question I have been waiting for,
I never really liked the vans that have windows when I was a kid, I thought they were a lot neater looking with a nice mural on the side. And, as far as putting opening doors, I was against it at 1st, but I'm starting to think differently.
And, NO, if theres one thing I can't do, is paint a mural.

But I think I will need a bumper sticker that says " If this van is a Rockin (crawling) don't coma a knockin.. :D good ole play on words


ooking great Jeffro

Thank you Seth

[jeffro]

I had a really busy weekend, now that warmer weather is here, but I did get to spend a little time on this in the early mornings and late evenings.

Made my chassis and put the TLT axles together. I reversed the shackles on the front, and just not sure about the tires, they are little. 1.55 Dirt grabbers.. I may be going to just a little larger tire. See what you guys think..

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Also, just been kinda sanding and rounding curves a little, nothing major.

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In this pic, there are some 1.9 tomahawks on the otherside, and they just look all wrong for this build..

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[Waterboy]

aw man thats a really hard desicion. The 1.5 dirt grabbers look just a very small tad too small, and i cant really see the tomahawks.:p

Oh and Jeff, THIS is what i was talking about when i said
if not, i think i have an idea you may like:)1300

1301

:banplease:Ok you have to agree isnt this thing sweet! I cant even express how much i wanna see an RC of this, i think it would be a little too hard to make the top open like that, but wow, this would be amazing. With your skills, i think it would be a synch for you. And its like a crawler too.:D:):D:)

Heres the linky:http://www.sportsmobile.com/ultimate.html

[OldSchoolRC]

Wow - those dirt grabbers are small! Look super scale though.

Tha van is coming along well! Since it's bigger than a lunchbox, maybe you could call this the Cooler? :)

[Northwest 4x4]

I like that name the "cooler" it has a nice ring to it

[Flowmastered87gl]

looking good so far.

Here is the van from Cheech and Chongs Next Movie :D

http://imcdb.org/images/058/493.jpg

[teebeehex]

Jeff, those tires are perfect in scale terms. You could lower the body a couple of mm to help the look but I think it looks fine where it sits.

Your homebrew chassis look good, do you get much twist? I imagine you have a little more strength in it once the motor and cross members are installed.

[Wyoming]

Lol, this is a fun build to watch :)

[jeffro]

Thanks Andrew, I came across those pics too, somewhere. I may snag a few ideas from it, but I don't think I would ever get finished. :)

The "Cooler", I'll have to think about it. The idea I have been toying with is finding someone to do a rockcrawling mural on one side, maybe something like what Joe has up above with the cacti and mountains and maybe the van and one of my otheres painted in.
And "NO" I can't even come close to painting like that..I wish.

Mike, what would I do without you, I saw all of their movies when I was stationed in "Hawaii" (you know it). Excellent pic of the grll, I'm thinking of trying to do a 70's grill, but don't hold me to it.

The more I look at those tires on there, Im kinda likeng them, but I need to try some different ones, and by the time the end rolls around, I will know better, but they really do look scale.

For right now the chassis is too far up in the body, and as it sits, yes the chassis does have a little flexability, but you are correct teebeehex, it stiffens up nicely when I get everything in place

Thank you Seth, I'm getting a huge kick out of this build, I'm getting comments from a lot of people on other forums, I seem to have hit a nerve. I just wish I knew how to type (better, faster cause right now Im a 2 finger and 1 thumb typer, )


Ok, now, check these mud thrashers out compared to the dirt grabbers, I borrowed them from ole blue, just for the time being.

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[Davitamol]

hey jeff

nice van you are building, in my opinion the 1.55 wheels and tires look better then the big ones.

[Moondoggie]

Looks like this build is coming along nicely. Keep it up! :thumb:

[Waterboy]

Looks really good!

[jeffro]

Thanks a lot guys. I finally got the shock towers made, and the shocks in place. I propped up the body on the frame where I thought it should sit on the frame. Now see what ya think of the Thrashers

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[skinny_TC]

Jeffro, Van is looking great. My vote is for the Thrashers!

[Moondoggie]

Thrashers look good on there. I'll guess you are going to be removing the servo plate mounts from the bottom of the axle?

[Waterboy]

Looking definetly awesome!! Definetly thrashers, looks amazing:thumb:

[Northwest 4x4]

I have to say the thrashers are the main pick here, so when do the side windows go up

[jeffro]

Thank you guys, for all your comments and thoughts. Now its time for more, I've been working on the fenderwells (time consuming), does the basic shape look close to a van fenderwell ??? Let me know, please :)

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I'm trying to hold off on any windows untill I get some more exterior work done, and I'm not brave enough yet :D

[OldSchoolRC]

Digging the new stance! Wheelwells look good to me.

[Waterboy]

Wheelwells are looking good!:thumb:

[jeffro]

Thanks Guys, Check them out now, and let me know how its looking.

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Moondoggie, I forgot to answer your question the other day about removing the servo plate mounts.. Actually I leave them on, and use them to install skid plates on both pumpkins. It works out great, and if I get carried away, I may even countersink the screwheads.

[Wyoming]

Looking good!

[Moondoggie]

Moondoggie, I forgot to answer your question the other day about removing the servo plate mounts.. Actually I leave them on, and use them to install skid plates on both pumpkins. It works out great, and if I get carried away, I may even countersink the screwheads.

Sounds like an excellent use for them. I would definitely countersink the screws. :thumb:

[Flowmastered87gl]

looks good, the fender flares help define the fender too.

[jeffro]

Thanks Guys.

I've made a few changes, can you tell ?? It still needs a lot of shaping, an sanding, but its getting there.

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And here is the stuff, except for the radio

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[Moondoggie]

Excellent work; keep it up! It's starting to take on that awesome van look! Your selection of electrics ought to work nicely.

[McFig]

looks good, the fender flares help define the fender too.

x2 Flat black fender flares would look so good on there and it would really help with the axles being too wide.

[jeffro]

Excellent work; keep it up! It's starting to take on that awesome van look! Your selection of electrics ought to work nicely.

Thanks Moondoggie, I've had great luck with them before, so I just picked up the same.




x2 Flat black fender flares would look so good on there and it would really help with the axles being too wide.

Thanks Mcfig, I agree. Maybe I can mod some that are for a clod body.

[Waterboy]

http://sdi4x4.com/index.php?cPath=22&osCsid=3ed9e38dc511dce2783b09da0212174b

These might (might) help with your fenders, you could probably mod 'em, ahh i dont know.

[OldSchoolRC]

Looking good!!! I see you are setting the various sites on fire with this thread - nice work bud

[jeffro]

http://sdi4x4.com/index.php?cPath=22&osCsid=3ed9e38dc511dce2783b09da0212174b

These might (might) help with your fenders, you could probably mod 'em, ahh i dont know.

Thank you Andrew, I've been eyeing them, just afraid to order from overseas again.


Looking good!!! I see you are setting the various sites on fire with this thread - nice work bud

Thank you OSRC :) It has, hasn't it ?? Its kinda like therapy for this old man. Keeps me motivated and interested, Thank you again, Everyone, including Tamiya, I only build with their axles, and I will be changing the one that has someone else's tranny to a Tamiya Trannsmission of some sort, plus Tamiya kinda started this anyway, didn't they ???

With this truck, or I should say chassis I suppose, it just took awhile to grow

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Anyway, check these tires out, I robbed the CrewCab's shoes

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Let me hear your thoughts

[Flowmastered87gl]

A side shot would be nice, my thoughts are it would be nice if it had a narrower track, or less offset on the wheels. They seem to stick out a bit much for my tastes.

[chaos]

man the work so far has been out standing, i look forward to the out come of this build. I keep hearing the A-Team theme in my head as i read threw the thread...keep it up.

[Northwest 4x4]

All the greats follow their mind and know where to go with their biulds

[Flowmastered87gl]

If you need interior ideas.

How about a disco ball and a waterbed in back. Maybe make the bed out of one of those jelly like ice packs??? so that kinda can ooze around??

And shag carpeting :D

[jeffro]

Thanks guys, for all those wonderful ideas, but sadly, no.. :D And just for you Mike a side shot in all of its gory I mean glory. :)

I've had chances to work on it today, Grandson is here.

What you guys think now..

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And I've just started building up the back, so I can start rounding it out sometime.

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Also mocked up the chassis to kinda see where things are gonna fit, and, I know the tranny is in backwards, it will have to be.

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[Wyoming]

Looking great Jeffro, I was watching an old Chuck Norris Movie awhile ago and he was driving a big 4x4 van with an eagle on it and it made me think of this build lol!

[Northwest 4x4]

great so far are you going to and working doors and what are you going to use tor windows tint or no tint

[Flowmastered87gl]

Side shot looks pretty good, only nit pick is.... in the year that grille represents (does it even mach any year since its off a clod?) were the 70/30 side doors available that year??

I know they were available in the 90's but were they in the 80's??

[jeffro]

Looking great Jeffro, I was watching an old Chuck Norris Movie awhile ago and he was driving a big 4x4 van with an eagle on it and it made me think of this build lol!

Thank you Seth, Dang, its been awhile since I've seen that movie, I guess if I was Chuck, I could frighten this build done. LOL


great so far are you going to and working doors and what are you going to use tor windows tint or no tint

Thank you Northwest, those are good questions. I believe the only opening doors will be the rear doors, I've decided not to open the side doors, (unless I get another wild hair going :D And since I'm not going to do an interior, I will most likely do a tint job.


Side shot looks pretty good, only nit pick is.... in the year that grille represents (does it even mach any year since its off a clod?) were the 70/30 side doors available that year??

I know they were available in the 90's but were they in the 80's??

Hi Mike, Thank you, its Ok, nit pic all ya want, it keeps me informed and honest. I want to know if I'm wrong or it looks like S...

Here is what I'm using for reference and its an 87 according to the pics.

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[Waterboy]

definetly coming along. I think the slingers looks good on there, but if its gonna be an All purpose SUV i say Thrashers.:) Fenders are looking great!!

[Northwest 4x4]

the spec's look spot on and the rear doors are the good pick and its coming along really well

[Moondoggie]

Functioning rear doors will be awesome, even without an interior. Can't wait to see it finished! Based on the scale, it will have some real photo potential.

[jeffro]

definetly coming along. I think the slingers looks good on there, but if its gonna be an All purpose SUV i say Thrashers.:) Fenders are looking great!!

Thank you Andrew (where have you been :) ) Im fairly certain the slingers are staying. The majority of people like them including me.


the spec's look spot on and the rear doors are the good pick and its coming along really well

Thank you northwest.


Functioning rear doors will be awesome, even without an interior. Can't wait to see it finished! Based on the scale, it will have some real photo potential.

Thank you Moondoggie, I wish you guys weren't so far away, I would bring it out for a shoot, you have a good eye for shots and a great place to take the pics.

Anyway, what do I need to do to the body, does the top at the rear need rounded more, its close, but something is not right and I can't place it, where's Mike when I need him :)

I sprayed some flat brown on it too help me see it better

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Also had to do a flex shot. I may not get much more done till Sunday, Jules and I are headed to Starved Rock State Park for a few days.

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[chaos]

Looks good, i like the look of it with the slingers as well...can't wait to see what else you have in store for it.

[teebeehex]

Jeff, the rear needs to be convexed!
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My suggestion for the easy option would be to laminate another piece of styrene at the top of the rear frame and sand it to shape. Sorry, more sanding buddy :o :willy_nilly:

[OldSchoolRC]

yes, maybe the front too under the grill. There there is another body line on the 1:1 pic just above the wheelwells if you really want to split hairs. Otherwise it's dang close! Neither of those detract from the awesomeness factor however :)

[jeffro]

Gettin closer, but not there yet. Just, latest WIP pics, and yes I have dips :D

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[jeffro]

Did a little more work on the back doors and picked up some paint

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[Moondoggie]

Nice work on the doors! That rig is starting to look its part! :thumb:

Oh and nice mug. lol

[That guy]

Jeffro, That is coooool! If Cheech and Chong had that van, there would have never been all of those cool/funny movies because they wood have been back in the hills or mountains some where and never would have got caught on film!!! LOL... That thing is great, I would drive the wee out of that thing! If you make a 1/1, consider it sold! Great work and you must have the most patienc of anyone out there!!! Great Job:cool::D:eek::omg::yourock::first::thumb:

[jeffro]

Nice work on the doors! That rig is starting to look its part!

Oh and nice mug. lol

Thank you Moondoggie. I'm trying to be patient on this one, I've been sanding quite a bit, up until today, and I'm finally getting the low spots up and the high spots lower. :confused:

That mug has seen me build a lot planes and now trucks, its almost 11 years old. I grew up on a farm till I was 12, and all the tractors were John Deere's. The most modern was a 720 Diesel.



The coolest van I have ever seen !!!!

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Jeffro, That is coooool! If Cheech and Chong had that van, there would have never been all of those cool/funny movies because they wood have been back in the hills or mountains some where and never would have got caught on film!!! LOL... That thing is great, I would drive the wee out of that thing! If you make a 1/1, consider it sold! Great work and you must have the most patienc of anyone out there!!! Great Job

Thanks That guy, I guess I shouldn't tell you that I saw the 1st onesl when they came out, and that I was in Hawaii from 77 to 79 :D

Patience is a day to day thing for me, somedays its there and others, not so much..

Thank you again for commenting



I've been expeimenting with a bigger rear bubble window (sort of bubbly), I made them from an old pair of my glasses (Thanks to Julie's idea), then I just mocked up the grill a little, and I'm working on making stronger hinges then what I put on the BURB, and I think you will recognise what they are or were or going to be...

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[Waterboy]

Love those colors! kinda like the Skooby doo van except without the brown?

The bubble looks great, perfect size:)

[Budhatrain]

bubble glass looks right on. Your gonna have to do some graphic type paint- single tone won't fit. Even if it's just strips- very cool. You know you have a winner when everyone wants to "take it from here"

[That guy]

I am seeing some heavy duty hinges, and by the way 77' is a great year [ except for Elvis dying]. I need to get some pics of my 1/1 77' chevy stepside 4x4.:focus::focus: I love the van, if you ever want to part with it I HAVE FIRST DIBS!!! Great body work! Love it:D

[jeffro]

I am seeing some heavy duty hinges, and by the way 77' is a great year [ except for Elvis dying]. I need to get some pics of my 1/1 77' chevy stepside 4x4.:focus::focus: I love the van, if you ever want to part with it I HAVE FIRST DIBS!!! Great body work! Love it

Thank you for those kind words Kevin, and I would love to see the 77 stpside
Not too bad of a year, Thats the year I graduated, and they let me loose too the world, (for 2 weeks) then I went to San Diego for Bootcamp. :confused:

With any luck, the van will be around for my granchildren, if they ever become interested, still a little young at the moment, 4 an 2..

( Don't forget Lynyrd Skynyrd in Aug or Sept. 77, or something like that. ) right ???

here is the van as of last nite, ( no work tonite, my nite away from the van) (well, I'm looking at it) I'm working on the drip edge, and have a few things to straighten out. Yup, its primered another color again :) Still have a lot of sanding to do...and fix a fender

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[Waterboy]

woohoo! that is looking awesome. And the glasses idea was good too:)

[Flowmastered87gl]

Been working ALOT... looks like you got it spot on without my eye :D

The rear looks about right to me, the body lines on the side look good... just to make fun.... is 4 lines the proper amount on the roof???

Good luck even FINDING a shot of the roof of one of these.

I say it looks good though :thumb:

[Wyoming]

Looking great so far, I'm sure if you parked a 1:1 version of this by a school somebody call the cops, but all kidding aside nice body work :D

[Moondoggie]

Looking great! Using the glasses was an excellent idea! :thumb:

[jeffro]

@ Andrew , Thank you, And that was Julie's idea, maybe I should marry her

@ Thank you Mike, Somebody around here needs to go to work once in awhile :) Believe it or not, I've been waiting to hear from you. You always have a great perspective on my builds. I think there are 4 lines on the roof. or is there 6 ?

@ Seth, Thank you, I think :) I hear that from a lot of people, a friend calls me buffalo bill now :D

@ Moondoggie, Thank you Mr Wizard :)

(I like the idea of using the @, instead of quoting everyone, it saves me a half day of typing) Anyway

Here are a few updates, I'm in a really slow area of this build.

I built up the back area of the roof line

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Then last night I started shaping it

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Also trying to carve some door handles, its just tacked in place, I still need to work on it

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[Waterboy]

the door handles look great!!:)

[JAnderson]

@Jeff Absolutely amazing!

[JAnderson]

Jeff you need to show this guy how it's done right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w_ag3a_thA

[Moondoggie]

Door handle looks excellent! I can't wait till this thing is all done! :thumb:

When it's ready for the paint, are you going to be going for a basic or complex paint scheme, or just plain, maybe with some weathering?

[Flowmastered87gl]

Jeff got a good look for you (driving a big truck at work has its benefits).

I saw 6 lines on the roof evenly spaced from the rain gutters. (example would be rain gutter, 10 inches, line, 10 inches, line and so on....

So if the roof is say 7 inches wide gutter to gutter if you laid a flexible measuring tape on the roof, then it would be 1 inch between each of the ribbed lines on the roof.

[OldSchoolRC]

Jeffro, I can only say it looks good some many times without feeling like a tool, so i'm going to say it look awful just for a chance of pace.

I now feel better about myself, and will continue the glowing comments after the next round of updates.

[jeffro]

@ Andrew, Thank you, see what you think of the handles now.

@ Joe, Thank you very much, you and Seth and a couple others got me rolling on thinking outside the box on building Tamiya's trucks. Thank you. I'll see if I can do better then that big van.

@ Moondoggie, Thank You also Mr Wiard, and you're another one with that Zombie build, that got me started on these trucks. As for the paint, I think it will be fairly simple, I wish I could do more, I'm just not patient enough.

@ Flowmaster , Thank you Mike, You rock dude. I would say you are right on.

@ Damon, I understand, I never know what to say, I can't ever think of a question or a clever comment on a constant basis. At least you see what I'm seeing.
Thank you Damon

Its been a busy weekend, we had 2 birthday's to take care of, I did some stuff in the early morning. The pics kinda speak for themselves, I think I'm getting closer to paint

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Testing,

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[jeffro]

Thanks to Mike and Derick. I just finished putting the 6 strips on the roof, see what you think and I'm going to bed

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[Moondoggie]

Made some excellent progress! Nice detail on the door handles and hinges!

[Wyoming]

Those ribs look great on there, I can picture badly faded paint and rust spots on the roof where nobody can reach them to wax it lol!

[jeffro]

Thanks you 2, maybe I should pack it up and send it to you guys for a special paint job :D :)

[That guy]

Looks great!! I can't wait to see what your cooking up for the paint job.

[Flowmastered87gl]

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It looks like 4wd Turtle :D

[jeffro]

It looks like 4wd Turtle :D

I guess I could have Joe or Jay rename the thread to "The 4WD Turtle" :D

I did a little bit of work last night. I was able to get one of the doors hung and I am experimenting with the color. What you see now will most likely get wet sanded and repainted with silver or white, but I just wanted to try the paint. It looks bad at the moment, with the lighting, my bodywork, and some places I had sanded down to the body, but didn't reprimer..

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[Waterboy]

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That styrene attaching from the body to the chassis makes it look very realistic!

[That guy]

:jaw::jaw: Is there any plans for a interior?? I will look for a 1/10 disco ball...LOL:D Is that the final color or a test? it looks to be of the era, very cool!

[Flowmastered87gl]

i agree I love the metal flake on that color... a van like this needs some major metal flake action

[Northwest 4x4]

and it will need some neon lights in the floor panels then it will be great

[jeffro]

Is there any plans for a interior?? I will look for a 1/10 disco ball...LOL:D Is that the final color or a test? it looks to be of the era, very cool!

I wanted to do an interior, I guess I could hide most of the stuff inside, but I just don't want to mess with one now.

Yes, just testing at the moment, and I will explain that better in a little bit



i agree I love the metal flake on that color... a van like this needs some major metal flake action

I agree completely, I like Vans with a little bit of flair to them. Thank you Mike.


and it will need some neon lights in the floor panels then it will be great

You busted me out man, I have a few extra light units left over from some Tamiya kits, that I may try to do some lighting, since I'm not really doing an interior.



I think you guys have watched me enough to know that this will be all kinds of colors before I get it done. I did a dumb thing, I wasn't thinking, Thank goodness for Tamiya paint. (Its not good when you primer with one brand of paint, then try to shoot another brand over the top) But Tamiya primer is saving me :cool:

This is what I am up to, this sheet has 3 squares with different base colors, gold, silver and white. In natural light you can see the difference more, between gold and silver.
I want to layer the van, bottom to top, with gold on the bottom silver to define the main center of the van, with white on top, then shoot the whole thing with Flaming Orange

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I just had to make sure it was different then this truck

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Getting the electronics layed out, (I'm ahead of the game this time)

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And I glued on the side molding or whatever you call it. (it may be a little wavy) :D

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[Budhatrain]

This is just my opinion but I like the van being silver over the orange...

[TubbyT]

I dig the heavy metal orange flake.

Now it needs is a big airbrushed mural on the side of it with a fire breathing dragon and a sweet wizard holding a crystal ball next to a girl wearing a metal bikini.

Or something like that.

[jeffro]

This is just my opinion but I like the van being silver over the orange...

Thanks, but I gotta go with my original plan, for now.


I dig the heavy metal orange flake.

Now it needs is a big airbrushed mural on the side of it with a fire breathing dragon and a sweet wizard holding a crystal ball next to a girl wearing a metal bikini.

Or something like that.

Thanks, Wish I could paint one.

I've started, and who know's it may change. I have more to do to it, but here is where I am at.

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[That guy]

I love this build. That van is a true one-of-a-kind:omg:.Love the color, If I ever win the lotto I'm gonna have to build one for my 1/1 wheelin trips. :D

[Budhatrain]

I take it back it looks real good! I have noticed on other builds of yours that the side mirrors look real great and scale... where do you get your side mirrors from for these chevy projects?

[Moondoggie]

Wow! Made some great progress! This thing looks absolutely amazing! :thumb:

[skinny_TC]

Looks great Jeffro!

[jeffro]

I love this build. That van is a true one-of-a-kind:omg:.Love the color, If I ever win the lotto I'm gonna have to build one for my 1/1 wheelin trips.

Thank you Kevin, if you do win and build a 1:1 van, you better show us :)


I take it back it looks real good! I have noticed on other builds of yours that the side mirrors look real great and scale... where do you get your side mirrors from for these chevy projects?

Thank you Budhatrain, now I'm the one having 2nd thoughts. Those mirrors are from the Tamiya Toyota Highlift kit. With just a little bit of work, they are almost perfect.


Wow! Made some great progress! This thing looks absolutely amazing!

Thank you Moondoggie. :)


Looks great Jeffro!

Thank you skinny

I wasn't able to do anything last night, we had a bad storm come through and take out a tree and my power, this is what I woke up to this morning

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So, I have no updates to show, so how about if I back track and show you guys the base coat on the van. I forgot to load these the other day.

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[Budhatrain]

yeah I saw your thread on another forum and that you are possibly thinking another direction. I never heard of the blue making your wheelbase look off. If someone was offering to airbrush you a graphic for free- I say go for it, unless they have bad to little feedback.

[jeffro]

yeah I saw your thread on another forum and that you are possibly thinking another direction. I never heard of the blue making your wheelbase look off. If someone was offering to airbrush you a graphic for free- I say go for it, unless they have bad to little feedback.

Hey Mike, Thanks for the input. I think I'm going to stay with the orange, unless I get a wild hair going again. :) As for the blue and wheelbase's, its just a joke amongst us over there, kinda like bacon over there also.

The guy that is offering the mural has a lot of posts on that forum and he does have a website of his work. He's been a member of that site since 06 it looks like. I may do some digging and question asking over there.

Maybe I could get Joe to do the Tamiya Crawlers logo on the side of the van. I think a cactus or 2 would look good with some boulders and a highlift or something crawling over the rocks

[backtomyroots]

Jeez, I take a break from the forum and miss this ? Never shall I leave again ~ awesome custom build :yikes: !

[jeffro]

Jeez, I take a break from the forum and miss this ? Never shall I leave again ~ awesome custom build !

Thank you,.. See, you should never leave completely, just lurk a little once in awhile. :D But, we're glad you are back.

I need to update a little progress. I'm trying to get the front windshield to fit, I finally remembered I need to put the vent windows back in, put the bowtie on the grill, and headlight lenses. I've also put some stripe's on it. There is stil a few more things I need to finish.

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It still needs some touching up, I have a hard time staying steady with my hands anymore. And I tried to make an older style grill earlirer in the build, but I gave up, it looks like :thumbdown:

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[Waterboy]

i think the grill you have now looks better...

[Northwest 4x4]

looks great any way you put it now if only u had an extra one that way it be biult into tha a-team van for the up coming movie

[R/C Modz Full Throttle]

That's a great looking project, not a big fan of monster vans, but this is a great scale build. Good job.

[Flowmastered87gl]

Hmmmm random thought.... THIS is what the midnight pumpkin shoulda been.

[jeffro]

i think the grill you have now looks better...

Thanks Andrew, me too


looks great any way you put it now if only u had an extra one that way it be biult into tha a-team van for the up coming movie

Thank you Nothwest, I wish I could talk my self into building another, but I need a change


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That's a great looking project, not a big fan of monster vans, but this is a great scale build. Good job.

Thank you Christopher, I understand, it was more of the challenge of the build then anything else.


Hmmmm random thought.... THIS is what the midnight pumpkin shoulda been.

Do you mean in scale size ?? that would be neat, that is one of my favorite years for a Ford truck.

First off, I want to say "Thank you " to everyone, for commenting or looking or lurking :D on this build. It seems to have drawn a little bit of attention here and a few other places. It was a lot of fun.

Its almost done (for now). I have a few things to do, mechanically, but the body is mostly done, maybe get the glass in for the windows, some lighting, and one of the important things, a body mount.

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And with the family

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Once again, I feel the need to say "Thank You " to TAMIYA, for supplying me with the hardware needed to build these trucks and the area to show them off.

THANK YOU TAMIYA (yes, you too Joe, Jay, McFig) :)

[Flowmastered87gl]

On the midnight pumpkin, no I mean in body style and color... really does a black ford pickup look anything like a pumpkin?? Not really... but an orange van isn't too far off really... (going a little off topic but maybe the lunch box and pumpkin names coulda been reversed...)

[jeffro]

On the midnight pumpkin, no I mean in body style and color... really does a black ford pickup look anything like a pumpkin?? Not really... but an orange van isn't too far off really... (going a little off topic but maybe the lunch box and pumpkin names coulda been reversed...)

I see, I'm a little slow in the uptakes, sometime's :D

A little back yard test

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[Flowmastered87gl]

it turned out soooooo good... just keep the shiny side up.

[chaos]

WOW....this turned out awesome, congrats on a fine build and thanks for sharing.

[Wyoming]

Looks very pimp Jeffro, very nice work. love the color and overall look of the thing, I am to young to remember the van craze but it makes me think of some old Chips re-runs and for some strange reason it makes me want a van lol!:yourock:

[Northwest 4x4]

I can get u a scale size if u are interested

[OldSchoolRC]

looks GREAT! Love the peace sign :)

[Flowmastered87gl]

Just to make you jealous.... somewhere at my parents house is an HO scale version of this van.

Its a metallic orange hot wheels van (with removable tires... lego tires fit it well actually) Hood opened though it was black plastic (same piece as interior probably)

Time to start searching e-bay to have an RC version of this van riding along in back.

[jeffro]

@ Mike (flowmaster) I'll try an keep it shiney, or for awhile anyway.

I used to have a bunch of Hotwheels, but I left them all behind in my last divorce, I just kept the old ones from the late 60's and early 70's. I seem to remember a van. I have your address, but not your parents, darn :D

@ Joe (chaos) Thank you Joe, I'm glad you liked the build and followed along.

@ Seth (wyoming) Thank you Seth. I never owned a van myself, I don't think I ever wanted one, but I always thought they were neat. I was in my early teens in the mid 70's, so there were vans around town with some cool murals. I have never liked the vans with all of the windows either. And its funny you say you want one now because of the build, well, my problem is the same thing, only its with every build. I think that is why I got the Jeep to drive.

@ Damon (oldschool) Thanks, I wasn't sure anybody noticed it, I was going to make it bigger, but changed my mind. I know what it needs.... A Dead Head bumper sticker :common001:

[Flowmastered87gl]

found one like it... I guess I was wrong.. it was a ford. Its known as a baja breaker

http://cgi.ebay.com/hot-wheels-baja-breaker-ford-4x4-van-gray-w-bw-/370389996908?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item563cf6d56c

[jeffro]

if the mods get me fixed, unless I'm in troulble or something, here is some "lit up" pics

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4680924066_4932e31b46_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4680292439_792f2bc62b_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1297/4680923910_8a9b619430_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4680292283_17aaa3ddc3_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4680923672_0149bee51b_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4680292017_8f187f575e_b.jpg

[IceChilly]

WOW! Jeff it came out excellent :thumb: I like the almost dark out pictures with the lights on.

[Moondoggie]

Looks absolutely amazing! Has the perfect van feel about it! Great work! :thumb:

[Wyoming]

Yes turned out great Jeffro, Buffalo Bill would be proud to drive that one :eek:

[jeffro]

Yes turned out great Jeffro, Buffalo Bill would be proud to drive that one :eek:

LOL, Thank you Seth. I keep thinking about repainting it. :D

[jeffro]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4755521223_4cf37d7338_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4756160072_2495f9103d_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4756160844_99ffed0606_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4756161514_d964079b01_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4755523749_57a19a33f0_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4756162792_6d9b0a34c8_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4756163052_eb47e95eb4_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4756163262_abde740330_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4756163594_fc2a2160a5_b.jpg

[That guy]

Hey Jeffro, Paint it like the mystery machine!?!?!..... SCOOBY-DOOBY-DOOBY-DOO...LOL Just Kidding of course.. Great build!!

[brunion]

:thumb::thumb:

Great Van Jeffro, looks good pictured with the rest of the R/C family.