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RichardinNZ
05-18-2010, 12:03 AM
I have a CR Tuned motor in my CR01 and am thinking about putting another in the CC01 that I'm soon to build. However, does anyone recommend an alternative 35T motor?

Many thanks.

Richard

Arcocustom
05-18-2010, 01:13 AM
Tekin, Epic, Integy, Hpi, and RC4WD all offer 35 turn motors in various bushed or bearing and open or closed end-bell styles. Some are rebuildable and some have adjustable timing. Some are cheap and some are expensive. Some can be had that are hand-wound and balanced. They run from the cheapest (HPI Saturn), to the most expensive (Tekin hand-wound), and everything in-between. :willy_nilly:

RC4WD 540 CRAWLER BRUSHED MOTOR 35T http://rc4wdstore.com/2/product_info.php?cPath=90&products_id=689&osCsid=4e8b96bcbc52a595d8bdd1e9df5da6fe
HPI Saturn 35T bushed, closed end-bell http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/1148/
Integy Matrix Pro Lathe Motor 35T Single http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLYV2&P=SM
Integy V11 Rock Crawler Professional Motor 35T http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=5239&p_catid=107
Epic Rock Crawler Modified, (35 Turn) http://www.teamepiconline.com/shop/item_new.asp?item=TRI16309
Tekin T35 Pro http://www.teamtekin.com/bmotors.html

colbyp
05-18-2010, 10:29 AM
Does is matter what ESC you use when you switch out the motor? If I have a new CC-01 kit and want to switch out the motor, can I use the same Tamiya ESC that came with the kit or do I need a different one paired specifically for a different motor?

Arcocustom
05-18-2010, 12:11 PM
The new CC-01 Land Cruiser kit includes a Tamiya TEU-104BK ESC Item #45041 and it has a 25 turn motor limit. This means the ESC can handle any brushed motor that is 25 turns or higher. Using a motor with fewer than 25 turns will draw more current than the ESC is rated for and the higher current draw will cause the ESC to overheat and go into thermal shutdown, or it could possibly damage the ESC.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=45041

Always keep in mind an ESC's motor limit when changing motors and choose a motor that is compatible with the ESC's ratings.

RichardinNZ
05-18-2010, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the help. One more question; what is a lathe motor?!

Arcocustom
05-18-2010, 01:43 PM
No problem, you're welcome. :) A lathe motor is a high-torque slave motor that spins the armature on commutator cutting lathe.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4619854982_307f10c11c_o.jpg

http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=3246&p_catid=26

McFig
05-18-2010, 01:51 PM
^^^^^
Just to add what he posted.

Scalers and crawlers like to use the lathe motor because it has alot of torque.

Personally I would go with the Integy lathe motor. Just from personal experiance and they are cheap

skinny_TC
05-18-2010, 04:10 PM
The new CC-01 Land Cruiser kit includes a Tamiya TEU-104BK ESC Item #45041 and it has a 25 turn motor limit. This means the ESC can handle any brushed motor that is 25 turns or higher. Using a motor with fewer than 25 turns will draw more amps than the ESC is rated for and the extra amp draw will cause the ESC to overheat and go into thermal shutdown, or it could possibly damage the ESC.


Now I'm confused again (it doesn't take much). So a 25 turn motor limit on an ESC means that you could use a 55 turn motor, but not a 19 turn motor? :confused:

Siggy
05-18-2010, 07:06 PM
Now I'm confused again (it doesn't take much). So a 25 turn motor limit on an ESC means that you could use a 55 turn motor, but not a 19 turn motor? :confused:

The lower the motor turn the faster it goes. So yes, an ESC with a 25T motor limit can do 25T and up (e.g. 55T). Also watch the gearing and look-out for binds in the power train, to assure that the battery, esc, and motor do not unnecessarily overheat.

Arcocustom
05-18-2010, 11:54 PM
MOTOR LIMIT: A guideline for the lowest recommended number of turns that can be used with a particular ESC. The turns in a motor are the number of windings on the armature of the motor. The lower the number of turns, the lower the resistance of the motor. This lowered resistance results in a potentially higher current draw, which can cause the ESC to run hotter.

FROM: the glossary section of Novak Electronics' Web Site.

http://www.teamnovak.com/tech_info/glossary/index.html