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Mouton
07-26-2008, 08:12 AM
Threespeeders and other Tamiya crawlers are great models for a walk in nature and the great outdoors. Some aim for the rocks, others for the puddles. For the latter group a fully waterproof truck means unstoppable action without worries. Keep in mind that you need not aim for the water in order to end up in it!

Some servos are sealed, but extremely few are fully waterproof (drown-able) and covered by warranty for such claims. Opening up a servo, receiver or ESC will void the warranty but waterproofing it will eliminate the biggest problem for us driving in the dirt to begin with. For those of you prepared to exchange the warranty for a waterproof model here are my top tips for how:

What do I need?/B]
The easiest way is by using rubber balloons around the servos, receiver and ESC. Sealing the open end with a cable tie (better yet silicone inside the opening and a cable tie) is good for servos and receivers but not for ESCs. The balloons are fragile and even worse, condensation might occur meaning that moist can be built up inside the balloon, making your electronics rust. In other words not the best way to go about it then.

If you want waterproof electronics you will have to open it up and waterproof it. Vaseline (e.g. Chesebrough) works and is widely available. The drawback is that it is not heat stable. If used during a hot summer day or in an ESC it will start to melt, thus diminishing its protective capability.

Silicone is water based and seals great, however it must be allowed to fully dry before anything is switched on. Silicone is conductive before it has dried. A minimum of 24 hours is recommended.

What I recommend is grease from the automotive industry. I personally use Würth WGF130, which is a German product for lubricating wheel bearings. Any garage/shop should have an equivalent product. Wheel bearing grease is the best way to fully waterproof electronics for RC use. It keeps water out, is heat stable (to all temperatures an ESC can generate) and does not lead any current. If you use any other type of grease than Würth WGF130 please do remember to check its lack of conductivity (with a multimeter) before you use it.

There are other products that also work fine, such as PlastiDip and various lacquers. However since all of them are even harder to find and more expensive than wheel bearing grease I will not cover them here.

How do I go about it then?
A toothpick or a matchstick are excellent for applying the sealant. A servo is very easy to open up and seal. Simply remove the four screws in the bottom and carefully remove the plastic bottom cover. Fill the servo with sealant and be extra careful to cover all sides of the hole where the servo lead exits. If your servo housing has an aluminum cooling head or consist of several plastic parts you need to carefully separate them and enter as much sealant as possible. When you put it back together excessive sealant shall drip out. The only possible pitfall with a servo is the gearbox, the part above the servo lugs. Open the gearbox carefully with your index and middle fingers while you keep your thumb on the gear that protrudes from the servo. That way the gears will stay in place. Once opened you place a small amount of sealant along the edges of the lid and around the hole for the servo's final gear. Do not fill the lid with sealant as this will force your servo to work much harder, possibly overloading it. Less is more here. Reassemble the servo and you are done.

[B]Receivers
The best way to seal a receiver is by opening it up. When you waterproof the receivers you should have connected the servos and the crystal. Lift up the circuit board and put loads of sealant on both sides. Snap it together and add even more sealant around the servo/battery connectors and the hole for the crystal.

ESCs
Mtroniks ESCs are the easiest solution here as their entire range is guaranteed folly waterproof. Any ESC that you can open up can be waterproofed. Before you fill it with sealant make sure you have programmed it to your liking as the sealant will render it difficult to redo.

Motors
As long as you stay clear of salty water you are safe, dirt is a bigger problem. Most racers actually break in new brushed motors in a glass of water. Extensive driving in water will shorten the lifespan of your motor but, since the threespeeds are so powerful in first gear I do not consider that a problem since the stock motor is very cheap to replace once it throws in the towel. Same goes for batteries, unless you play submarine all day the batteries will survive, but keep them in the dry for as much of the time as possible.

After all wet runs, make sure you re-lube the ball bearings. Extensive driving in water will wash out all grease from the diffs and gearbox, which is good to know.

Depending on how well you succeed you can achieve new depths! Here is a link to a forum post from a Swedish forum showing my F-350 High-Lift driving fully submerged:
http://rsb.se/arena/showthread.php?p=250854

SMOKE-DOG
07-26-2008, 09:08 AM
This is what i do. I use electronic project boxes from Radio Shack. They come in 3 different sizes and sometimes you have to trim a little plastic off the inside of the box to fit electronics. I shave a little plastic off the top to route the wires then use silicone to seal it up. Works fine for me and have never had a leak.
Examples:

tovleander
07-26-2008, 11:55 AM
Traxxas Slash Servo's and Esc (blue XL5) workt too,(maybe other models) The brush engine I use in the mud on my Camel Pajero, was a 25t Tamiya, I just had to open it and clean it to use it again.
I'm on the lookout for the radiobox from traxxas, its sealed wery well. Just tried to bath with the Slash today. (Only the Novak 3.5 who died) Everything else was fine.

So I will swap all my Scale Cars' servos with this Traxxas servo, and fit a servobox who's sealed. Maybe put on som silicone where the wires ar going in.

quick5pnt0
07-26-2008, 02:08 PM
What I've been doing:

Receivers: Wrap it in a balloon. Where the wires exit the balloon I put a zip tie, a dab of silicone glue and another zip tie.

Servos: A bead of silicone around the case seams and screws and grease around the shaft. I've completely submerged them like this time and time again without a problem.

ESC: This is the hardest part because it depends on what you're running. For a crawler you can get away with just wrapping it in a balloon because they rarely get hot in crawlers anyway. On something like a stadium truck, where the ESC is likely to get hot, you're probably better off going with something that is already waterproof like the blue Traxxas, Mtroniks, or LRP escs. I've run my LRP Runner Reverse completely submerged without a problem.

As for motors and batteries, don't worry about them. The brush life in the motor will be shortened but its not a big deal if you do normal motor maintenance.

Wyoming
09-06-2008, 02:45 PM
great tips guys, I usually end up stalled and just letting them dry out in the sun till they work again lol!

Moondoggie
11-10-2008, 10:22 AM
great tips guys, I usually end up stalled and just letting them dry out in the sun till they work again lol!

LOL! Quite a few of the crawler like vehicles that you own have, the electrics are mounted high up anyway.

Unless anyone is planning on driving under water just making sure that the electrics are mounted high up on the chassis. You should be fairly safe.

Blazerbogger
11-10-2008, 07:15 PM
Instead of buying the Traxxas waterproof servo's, you can waterproof your own servo's for much less.
Here's how I waterproof mine.

1. Take your servo of choice.

2. Either remove the damper spacers from your Tamiya shocks, or buy Tamiya part #50597 for the O-rings.
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL900/4206145/18988467/342624466.jpg

3. Fit the O-ring onto the servo shaft.(This may take some force, it is quite difficult)
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL900/4206145/18988467/342624558.jpg

4. Screw on your servo horn of choice and make sure that the O-ring compresses in order for it to seal properly.
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL900/4206145/18988467/342624760.jpg

5. For the servo case, I applied a thin layer of Plasti Dip. This also works well for any electronics, it dries quickly. I applied this to my TEU-101BK esc and submerged it underwater.
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL900/4206145/18988467/342624899.jpg

PsycoJuana
11-21-2008, 09:13 AM
So what about light KITS???? I am thinking of wasting the money on the Multi function unit but figure i am doing a tundra sub so the speaker is probably a no GO! lol
But i have been looking into the light kit "Tamiya LED Light Unit TLU-01"

So question on lights? should i try to seal them a little or they be fine?
And what bout the lens? Fill up and be left with bad water spots/dirt

any one been dunking there high lifts?

BREL
11-21-2008, 03:00 PM
water proof speaker, not a problem, get a mylar plastic one

Flowmastered87gl
08-13-2009, 03:40 PM
Hmmm guess tower hobbies doesnt carry them anymore but I have 3 Kyosho receiver covers that I use... they fit over the receiver and fit snug to the bottom of it and the wires come out the side. Works for light splashes and stuff but dont go playing submarine! They are like a flexible soft rubber stuff.