more pajero problems

[scale crawler GOD]

I dont understand whats wrong ive takin it apart and put it back together but whenever I try to go over somthing the gear for the rear axle slips and grinds, I think it could be the spur gear thing is loose and is coming up, because the tranny cover wont tighten up all the way what do I do:(

[scale crawler GOD]

oh ya and the front wheels wabble to much like their loose but if I tighten them all the way they cant move

[Blazerbogger]

First, get ball bearings! Those are a MUST on these trucks. Without them, you'll run into far worse problems. Use larger screws in the transmission cover and shim the bearing carrier on the rear of the spur gear in order to hold it down. To alleviate the wheel wobble, shave the pin side of the hex down so that the "pin lips" don't rub on the stub axle bearing. I had your same problems back in 2007.

[Flowmastered87gl]

I have the same issues, havn't gotten around to fixing them yet, I just ran it in FWD mode to stop the grinding. Not enough traction to make the spur gear hop. The shimming issue sounds like the right fix though. I drilled through some of my holes in the chassis and attached washers and nuts to LONG screws going all the way through the chassis. Never strip out... ever :D

[jepensedoucjsuis]

Use 6x3/8 sheet metal screws. I used that along with some mighty putty that I put in the hole and then after it hardened I used a 1mm Dremmel drill to drill a pilot hole. and I have not had any problems since. But the sheet metal screws by them selves will work. But the addition of the MP works all kinds of awesome.

If you look back You will see some of my post on the same subject.

[scale crawler GOD]

thanks for all the help guys!! :D gonna try to get it done tomarrow

[scale crawler GOD]

http://s415.photobucket.com/albums/pp233/owenleei/?action=view&current=wwwwwew019.flv overveiw :D

and problem :( http://s415.photobucket.com/albums/pp233/owenleei/?action=view&current=wwwwwew020.flv the first grinding noise is the tire rubbing on the body

[scale crawler GOD]

Im makin a run to home depot tomarrow for screws :D

[Blazerbogger]

Yes, do the larger screws and spacer mod and if it still doesn't work, we'll have to look into other possible problems. My guess is that the gearbox cover is coming up a little, and combined with the internal gear slack, is causing the spur gear to twist and ride either up or back. If the problem persists, I'll post some pics and diagrams of my ideas and solutions.

[cmac slides]

They are right about the scew mod exc but i had thaqtecact noise caused by the engine cover coming lose, id try to fix that first.....:D

[Boweavel]

Thought I'd throw my questions in here rather than start another Pajero thread.

Mine arrived today, A shelf Queen, with ball bearings and 1.9 wheels, metal rims.. Never used #49490 Pajero Metal Wide top and I have some questions,

Is this a thrash and play sort of chassis ? not really for crawling ? It advertises a hop up motor, the RS540 sport tuned motor.. which I happen to have in one unused hornet so thats handy :) So is it more of a playing vehicle ? Be good if it is because the Mrs just got her bribe present for all the other Tamiya's that have grown around the house since she's been gone :D

The Body at the rear end, Did tamiya stuff up with their hole placement or perhaps the guy that built it ? In the manual, Page 15 Instruction 29, The rear Tabs E3, When it was recieved this morning I found a ball bearing under each screw closest to the front of the chassis, on each side, Which effectivly angles the the Tabs Upwards. The Body sits right if the ball bearings are in. Remove the bearing and the body is too low at the rear.
The holes centre on the body (at the rear) is exactly 10mm above the top of the rear bumper, Is that correct ?
I notice if i drill lower im not going to be able to put a pin in, But the body seems to fit so tight anyway, I dont think it will need the pins.

Side steps, Just cut off that silly little rear end bit that my rear tyre keeps grabbing onto ?

Pics soon, need to add some running gear and.. get this body sorted.

Cheers on the other tips above, must look out for the grind and steering issues.

[Boweavel]

For example, This is how I think it should sit.

(Large image link)
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=1y3p4t&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1

But to do that , The inside part of the rear bumper, Has to sit ontop of the Rear Clip Tabs..

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=1y3p46&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1

Any thoughts what to do ? Might just try make some new tab and just raise it a bit.

Been looking at this thing closely now that I'm home from work, Love all the extra holes around the place for different placement of shocks etc, I assume with a bit of Creativity it could be a crawler :)

[Flowmastered87gl]

well I can tell from the picture that the body is "lifted." I would not consider it a hardcore crawler, its more of an inexpensive scaler. I plan to crawl mine competitively once I get it done and get some stickier tires for it.

[McFig]

I wouldn't classify it as a crawler. I would say its a scaler or trail truck. You can using it for light crawling, but if you hit some serious rocks, your up a creek. If you take it out on a trail with some rocks, sticks, rough terrain, etc, it will do fine. The problem is clearance...there isn't much. Also the diffs are not locked, so you have to come up with some home way to lock them.

[Thorsteenster]

I wouldn't use bigger screws, just longer. I had the same problem after bashing mine about with a Goat. I used longer fine thread screws and nuts on the underside where I could fit them, after that it was good as gold.

[Flowmastered87gl]

I wouldn't classify it as a crawler. I would say its a scaler or trail truck. You can using it for light crawling, but if you hit some serious rocks, your up a creek. If you take it out on a trail with some rocks, sticks, rough terrain, etc, it will do fine. The problem is clearance...there isn't much. Also the diffs are not locked, so you have to come up with some home way to lock them.

Not sure if the new ones come with it or not, but my original release came with nylon inserts for the gear diff to lock up the rear. And since I am on my second set of gears in mine I have 2 sets of lockers.

You can also do the trick of sticking a spider gear between the other 2 to lock them up.

If you lock the front careful how you apply throttle in high traction areas, you can blow the stock dogbones just like that :(

[Northwest 4x4]

the only thing I had a problem with was the rear end came unscrewed after I I lock it but thats all I had so far

[Boweavel]

Raining now so cant take it for a run but did a driveway run at midnight with it last night :D Zippy little thing with the Tuned RS 540 in it.. I'll just keep this one for burnouts and fun times!

[Flowmastered87gl]

the only thing I had a problem with was the rear end came unscrewed after I I lock it but thats all I had so far

oh ya, forgot about that... threadlock is a good idea when you screw the rear metal diff case together... just have fun getting it open if you want to change the lock/unlock nature of it :D

[Blazerbogger]

I had the same problem after bashing mine about with a Goat.

That was yours?! I think I saw a video of it at a Hobbytown gtg.

[Boweavel]

Well I fixed the sag in the Rear :)

http://www.tamiyacrawlers.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=162&pictureid=1198
(tyres look funny ?? They are dual tyres from my tamiya semi trailer kit.. just bored :) )


http://www.tamiyacrawlers.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=162&pictureid=1196

Replaced the Rear shocks with the top half of the left over shocks in my CR 01 kit and used everything else form the standard shocks of the Pajero. Moved the Spring retainers about an Inch down from the top and it all fits well, articulates well and now the body sits better... even if tilted forward a little, which if you've seen a real one, they pretty much are anyway :)

Yet to give it a run

http://www.tamiyacrawlers.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=162&pictureid=1197

[Flowmastered87gl]

once you lift a XC/CC its hard to go back to stock height :D

[Boweavel]

I just see it sitting next to the CR01 and think 'your to small buddy!' :D

[Arcocustom]

I just see it sitting next to the CR01 and think 'your to small buddy!' :D

Yeah, the CC-01 simply isn't cut out for rock crawling at all.

[Boweavel]

The kit arrived Off Ebay pre built in the condition of the first foto (rear sag), Ive never seen a standard kit, you think he's lifted this kit ? I thought it was standard :p

Should the sidestep be flush with the body edge ? for example

[Flowmastered87gl]

yes there should not really be a gap between the step and the body. they should almost touch.

Half the fun is trying to make them crawl though... I just got some pro line flat irons in the mail today for mine... hope they fit extra touring car rims that I have....

[Blazerbogger]

The trailer tires are the same size as the truck tires, right? I heard they are 85mm tall. They don't look that tall. If it's not any trouble, can you get a pic of them next to the Rock Cruisers for me?

[Boweavel]

Yup same tyre and 84 mm tall :)

This help ?

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=1ybmsm&outx=1024&quality=70

[teebeehex]

I guess the big question is, can you fit the Truck tires on the Paj rims and vice versa??!

[Boweavel]

The rims you see on my Paj are the only rims it came with, and I dont think they are standard so I cant try it out for you. The only 'single' set of truck tyres i have are the front tyres of the Globe Liner and they dont have a place on the rear of the hub for a 12mm nut to slot into, Just a round hole for a bearing to sit in.

The truck rim is also only 18mm wide. I think you could use these tyres on the Paj but having no locking 12mm hub might be a problem :)

(edit:) tho saying that, the rear dual rims.. come as singles and they bolt together, you could use the inside rim of the duals as it has the 12mm hex hole at the rear and a shiny face at the front that wouldnt look to bad. Havent glued the tyres together yet but will have a photo for you tomoro with the pajero wearing the truck tyres and rear inner rims :)

[Boweavel]

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=1ybpov&outx=1024&quality=70

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=1ybpow&outx=1024&quality=70

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=1ybpo0&outx=1024&quality=70




The only real problem is the lower ..king pin ? in the last photo. It rubs against the outer edge of the rim and the tyre isnt screwed on tight, there is about 4mm of space on the thread left to go. A spacer of some type might work, double the hex nuts perhaps, but that front wheel nut is only just held on as it is.

Other than that.. seem to fit fine.. Even If a little bit thin :p

[Flowmastered87gl]

it looks so narrow... throw a pickup body on that chassis and some drop down train axles from the bumpers and it would look like a railroad repair vehicle :D

[Boweavel]

Anyone got a set of these Rims ? Thinking of getting some myself.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190331628635&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!BZWCuf!B2k~$(KGrHgoOKkYEjlLm(TDiBKmSuWWbNw~~_12.J PG

[Arcocustom]

I have never used them. They will not work with Proline 1.9 tires, due to thicker bead, but other than that, they are OK I guess.

http://www.tamiyacrawlers.com/forum/album.php?albumid=103

Wow!!! just noticed the price, OUCH!!!

ebay AU $71.00

RC4WD US $39.99

RC4WD ONLINE STORE

:link: http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=2&products_id=676&osCsid=30d2ea3459115b6f64fd0f75e94c3854

[relwarc]

My advice is to check your front diff assembly especially if you locked it.

I heard a similar sound right after I locked my front diff. It only happened under stress - like going up a steep hill. In my case this was caused by the front diff gear assembly bulging out at the sides and rubbing against the chassis. I crated the bulging sides because I filled the bevel gears with hot glue and then put it back together in order to lock the front diff. I guess I used too much hot glue ;) Anyway I had to sand down the sides of the front diff assembly and dremel it down in a couple of spots - then fit with just a little bit of play and it has worked ever since...

[McFig]

Anyone got a set of these Rims ? Thinking of getting some myself.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190331628635&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


JAnderson has a set of those on his Hummer build: http://www.tamiyacrawlers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=739

[scale crawler GOD]

well I put new gears in unlocked the front diff and did a lot of body work to make it into a rally car instead of a crawler ( much better this way :D )